[Neo4j] Status of visualization options

Kalin Wilson Development dev at kalinwilson.com
Thu Dec 2 07:23:46 CET 2010 

I'm prototyping an app using Neo4j. Currently for testing and familiarity I can generate a random network of any size.
I am using JIT (http://thejit.org) to visualize the graph on a web page via Javascript, basically using the Force Directed example 2 with my JSON data instead of the example data.
For small graphs (< 50 nodes, < 200 or so relationships) the performance is OK, large graphs take a long time to display but once displayed the interactivity is fine. I haven't done any troubleshooting or benchmarking to see where the issues are, but it appears to be the JSON ingestion and/or the layout calculations.
I'm also planning to look at MxGraph (http://www.mxgraph.com) as it offers a rich api/model and purports to be performant.

Anyway JIT appears to be fairly easy to work with but may have some performance limitations.

Cheers,
 Kalin

On Dec 1, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Ivan Brusic wrote:

> Just wanted to thank everyone that answered my question.  Didn't find an
> exact answer, but I am able to reduce the options to look at.  Fakod's
> latest post about Neo4j with GWT+JIT seems interesting.  I am not running a
> REST server, but I can work from the ideas.  I'm also a Scala developer and
> GWT doesn't work with Scala (out of the box).
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ivan
> 
> On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 17:57:22 +0100, Ivan Brusic <ivan at brusic.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I have successfully imported a large part of my data set into neo4j and
>> have done some basic traversals.  I want to start visualizing a portion
> of
>> the graph or of a traversal and was overwhelmed by the amount of options
>> listed at http://wiki.neo4j.org/content/Visualization_options_for_graphs
>> 
>> It is unclear to me which products have actually been successfully
>> integrated with neo4j or which was still have ongoing development.   My
>> preference is for simplicity over flexibility and to work at the code
> level
>> via a library for the generation portion.  The actual viewer can be a
>> separate standalone application.  The visualizations themselves will be
>> very simple.
>> 
>> I am not an Eclipse user so I have not looked into Neoclipse.  I have
>> worked with Graphviz files before, so to generate a basic .dot file
> seems
>> ideal.  There was some discussion about JUNG lately, so perhaps that is
> a
>> better alternative.  Unfortunately I do not have the time to explore all
> of
>> the options.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Ivan
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:10:53 +0100
>> From: Mattias Persson <mattias at neotechnology.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Neo4j] Status of visualization options
>> To: Neo4j user discussions <user at lists.neo4j.org>
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<AANLkTinsTbpeXxfA=BuW0JMgf=zG2ushjvyKrH36+dwe at mail.gmail.com>
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>> 
>> 2010/11/21 Ivan Brusic <ivan at brusic.com>
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I have successfully imported a large part of my data set into neo4j and
>>> have done some basic traversals.  I want to start visualizing a portion
>>> of
>>> the graph or of a traversal and was overwhelmed by the amount of
> options
>>> listed at
> http://wiki.neo4j.org/content/Visualization_options_for_graphs
>>> 
>>> It is unclear to me which products have actually been successfully
>>> integrated with neo4j or which was still have ongoing development.   My
>>> preference is for simplicity over flexibility and to work at the code
>>> level
>>> via a library for the generation portion.  The actual viewer can be a
>>> separate standalone application.  The visualizations themselves will be
>>> very simple.
>>> 
>>> I am not an Eclipse user so I have not looked into Neoclipse.  I have
>>> worked with Graphviz files before, so to generate a basic .dot file
> seems
>>> ideal.  There was some discussion about JUNG lately, so perhaps that is
> a
>>> better alternative.  Unfortunately I do not have the time to explore
> all
>>> of
>>> the options.
>>> 
>> 
>> Neoclipse is a standalone application (although it's based on the
> eclipse
>> platform) so you don't have to know anything about eclipse in order to
> run
>> and use it. I also think the JUNG support is through Gremlin only.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Ivan
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Neo4j mailing list
>>> User at lists.neo4j.org
>>> https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Mattias Persson, [mattias at neotechnology.com]
>> Hacker, Neo Technology
>> www.neotechnology.com
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:57:12 -0700
>> From: venkat takumatla <vxmartha at ualr.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Neo4j] Status of visualization options
>> To: Neo4j user discussions <user at lists.neo4j.org>
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<AANLkTi=SGz-skULFKPzo=j+dbm-Q_Cv3v4N=rLyooayM at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> I am developing a testing tool for my work, I have implemented a basic
>> visualization library
>> which can be embedded into any java application or can work as
> standalone
>> application.
>> 
>> It can load network from gdf files or neo4j database files. Here I am
>> attaching a screenshot of the tool. Your feedback can help in improving
> the
>> library. current layout used is force based layout algorithm.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Venkat
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Mattias Persson
>> <mattias at neotechnology.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> 2010/11/21 Ivan Brusic <ivan at brusic.com>
>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> 
>>>> I have successfully imported a large part of my data set into neo4j
> and
>>>> have done some basic traversals.  I want to start visualizing a
> portion
>>> of
>>>> the graph or of a traversal and was overwhelmed by the amount of
>>>> options
>>>> listed at
>>>> http://wiki.neo4j.org/content/Visualization_options_for_graphs
>>>> 
>>>> It is unclear to me which products have actually been successfully
>>>> integrated with neo4j or which was still have ongoing development.  
> My
>>>> preference is for simplicity over flexibility and to work at the code
>>> level
>>>> via a library for the generation portion.  The actual viewer can be a
>>>> separate standalone application.  The visualizations themselves will
> be
>>>> very simple.
>>>> 
>>>> I am not an Eclipse user so I have not looked into Neoclipse.  I have
>>>> worked with Graphviz files before, so to generate a basic .dot file
>>>> seems
>>>> ideal.  There was some discussion about JUNG lately, so perhaps that
>>>> is a
>>>> better alternative.  Unfortunately I do not have the time to explore
>>>> all
>>> of
>>>> the options.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neoclipse is a standalone application (although it's based on the
> eclipse
>>> platform) so you don't have to know anything about eclipse in order to
>>> run
>>> and use it. I also think the JUNG support is through Gremlin only.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Ivan
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Neo4j mailing list
>>>> User at lists.neo4j.org
>>>> https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Mattias Persson, [mattias at neotechnology.com]
>>> Hacker, Neo Technology
>>> www.neotechnology.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Neo4j mailing list
>>> User at lists.neo4j.org
>>> https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Thanking you,
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> M.VenkataSwamy,
>> Graduate Research Assistant,
>> UALR
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